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Tue Jun 09, 2015 10:15 pm
Not that new a question:
I still use Gentoo, it works fine, but too much work on several PC's (not to administer, that is a no-brainer, but installing it is just too much work).
I seem to recall fsmithred used salix?
I am downloading it right now, to check it (but if there is a better option i can go straight for that one).
Sorry to say so: Going back to Debian or anything based on it is not an option for me.
Wed Jun 10, 2015 10:09 am
No, I haven't used salix. I've probably booted an iso in virtualbox, but I don't remember anything about it. Let us know how it goes. I did at one point consider using something slackware-based, but I decided to stick with something in the debian family for the extensive base of packages. In the past, I've trashed slack-based installs by pulling in packages from too many different (unofficial) repos.
Devuan is coming along nicely, and dzz has made a couple of devuan-based, nosystemd-refracta-xfce isos that don't rely on debian repos. (Not directly, anyway.)
Wed Jun 10, 2015 12:30 pm
Damn.
I was hoping for easy help regarding installing packages and the init system (probably sysv, not that sure, nothing in etc/init.d).
Well:
It boots from USB stick (not from SD-card, it boots, but then can't find the SD-card. Must be a driver thing).
I used xfce.
It has a gui-package manager (slapt-get ?).
It uses too much RAM, ihmo (around 200 MB).
No "tilda" in the repos. Fuck.
Thats all i could figure out yet.
I saw all the posts about the iso's, with interest, but i really don't plan to use Debian or anything based on it anymore. Probably a bit childish
(but then: it will keep me from learaning other systems because i will do what i am used to do).
If there was an alternative, i even wouldn't use Linux anymore (no, BSD isn't better in my book).
Wed Jun 10, 2015 1:16 pm
I've used slapt-get before, and it's pretty good. There's another unofficial package manager that works well, but I don't remember what it's called.
Last I knew, slack* use sysvinit. There's no / e t c /init.d, but scripts are in / e t c /rc-something. It's a slightly simpler setup, if I remember correctly.
"No tilda" is just the beginning. You'll run into lots of other things you want that aren't in the repo. You might find them in outside repos, and I think they've improved the scripts to create your own packages, so it's easier than it used to be, but don't quote me on that. Either way, you're not going to get it with a single, simple command like you can with debian. (I guess in gentoo it's also just a single, simple command, but it takes longer to finish.)
If you want to try something really different, there's this:
http://kolibrios.org/en/Pretty sure you'll only get the basics in that - file manager, text editor and a few other things, but it's pretty cool. Dust off your old 386 and fire it up.
Fri Jun 12, 2015 8:35 pm
\o/ Nadir is alive.. I thought he must have fallen off his skateboard and cracked his skull....
fsmithred I tried kalibrios and I have to say.. Wow it was fast. Confusing but fast
That aside glad to see you and dzz are working away. Your work is much appreciated and mentioned in dispatches.
Dragora 3 has a mini.iso Not really usable yet but hey! Listening to the geeky folks it seems it will be really very good, and will have a package manager \o/
http://gungre.ch/videos/jul-gui-5.webm
Fri Jun 12, 2015 9:02 pm
Oh. Hi kelsoo too.
Yeah, i am doing fine, but i barely do computing anymore.
Hence i am looking for a more easy solution than Gentoo (it is fine on one PC, but not on several).
kolibrios looks good and interesting, but my main problem really is an easy distro. I doubt i will find one ... In the long run i might just use refracta on PC's i use seldom.
Mon Nov 16, 2015 5:35 am
Ok.
As said in another thread, i finally installe Salix, and am using it for a week or two now.
I have choosen a "full installation" during installation (which was a one click and enter username and password operation).
Slackware is said to be of the tough distros.
Salix is very beginner friendly.
I had a couple of questions, but they were answered quickly.
My point is the following:
If someone would ask me what Linux to use, assuming he justs wants to start, i would not hesitate to tell him to use Salix
(main problem, obviously, is systemd, which mainly leaves Slackware and Gentoo, both not something you would want to tell someone else as an option).
refracta is an option too, of course.
but i am not sure what exactly might cause problems regarding systemd (when installing and removing software).
Mon Nov 16, 2015 5:35 am
Did that make any sense?
No? Ok, here is the short and clear version:
Salix is very easy.
Fri Jan 01, 2016 2:55 am
Wow, where am I.....
Salix is pretty solid. Support is directly from the developer most time. I use it on my laptop that I dual boot with Windows...Sadly I haven't been able to convince my employer to switch to Linux...
Mon Jan 04, 2016 5:22 pm
Still alive, huh?
Glad to hear it.
I am still using salix, though i got a couple of other distros installed (debian-kFreeBSD, dragora and gentoo. Might be i forgot some, cause i don't use them).
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