Path Maximum Transmission Unit Discovery PWG (pmtud) Thursday, July 17 at 1300-1500 =============================== CHAIRS: Matt Mathis Matt Zekauskas AGENDA: Preliminaries: Blue sheets, Note takers, Agenda bashing, etc Status of the preWG and becoming a full WG Status and plans for advancing the Internet-Draft (Additional contributors welcome) Short history and work to date Robustness issues (technical discussion) - What happens if DF is not honored? - What can be done if raising MTU causes losses (3 cases)? - What to do on hard (repeated) timeouts? - Can we anticipate any other failures? Identifying additional stakeholders - Other protocols that want to know about hard timeouts - Clashing technologies (e.g. ignore DF) - Identify possible early adopters Mailing list changeover Documents: draft-mathis-pmtud-method-00.txt, "Path MTU Discovery" This document ibes Path MTU Discovery for the Internet. It is largely derived from RFC 1191 and RFC 1981, which describe ICMP based Path MTU Discovery for IP versions 4 and 6, plus a robust new algorithm. Description of Working Group: The goal of the PMTUD working group is to specify a robust method for determining the IP Maximum Transmission Unit supported over an end-to-end path. This new method is expected to update most uses of RFC1191 and RFC1981, the current standards track protocols for this purpose. Various weakness in the current methods are documented in RFC2923, and have proven to be a chronic impediment to the deployment of new technologies that alter the path MTU, such as tunnels and new types of link layers. A new method proposed and supported strongly in the BOF does not rely on ICMP or other messages from the network. It finds the proper MTU by starting a connection using relatively small packets (e.g. TCP segments) and searching upwards by probing with progressively larger test packets (containing application data). If a probe packet is successfully delivered, then the path MTU is raised. The isolated loss of a probe packet (with or without an ICMP can't fragment message) is treated as an indication of a MTU limit, and not a congestion indicator. The working group will determine if there is consensus to pursue this method, and if there is, will specify the method for use in TCP, SCTP, and will outline what is necessary to support the method in transports such as DCCP. It will particularly describe the precise conditions under which lost packets are not treated as congestion indications. The work will pay particular attention to details that affect robustness and security. Path MTU discovery has the potential to interact with many other parts of the Internet, including all link, transport, encapsulation and tunnel protocols. Thereforethis working group will particularly encourage input from a wide cross section of the IETF to help to maximize the robustness of path MTU discovery in the presence of pathological behaviors from other components.