From johan Wed Jul 27 11:36:37 1994 Return-Path: Received: by ecsdg with (e)smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #1, RFC1426-additions from ECSDG) id m0qT5Pg-000I41C; Wed, 27 Jul 94 11:36 MET DST Message-Id: From: johan (Johan Svensson) Subject: Updated info (1994-07-26) To: mosaic-swe-win-users@ecsdg.lu.se (Mosaic Swe/Win Users Mailing List), mosaic-swe-x-users@ecsdg.lu.se (Mosaic Swe/X Users Mailing List) Date: Wed, 27 Jul 1994 11:36:35 +0200 (MET DST) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 6562 "Long time no see"! Here comes the latest status of the file "moswe.readme": Welcome to the discussion forum mosaic-swe-win-users/mosaic-swe-x-users! This text was last updated 1994-07-26. This discussion is held in English and that might seem strange as it deals with a Swedish project (the translation and adaptation of NCSA's famous Mosaic), but I think it's a good idea if we want to share our ideas with collegues in other countries. Background ---------- I think WWW (World Wide Web) and Mosaic will become a major corner- stone in the history of global information systems. Last day I saw a number of 500,000 installed Mosaic client systems! Within six months from now I think this number will grow by a couple of hundred percent, but that's my figures. Mosaic will undoubtedly become the universal information retreiver in the near future and it's very important that we (Swedes) participate in the development of this project. In order to get as many people - students, scientists, secretaries, administration personnel and other - into this future, we must of course obtain a Swedish version for all computer platforms. The Project ----------- I started in February 1994 translating the X-Windows version of Mosaic v2.2 into Swedish. It was a "hell of a job" as the resource strings are scattered all over the source code. However, after a couple of weeks I had it (almost anyway)! One goal is to make the software understandable for ordinary people as well as "computer-people" (the latter category, including myself, suffers from a certain kind of vocabolary that may interfere with common language and vice versa). Another goal is to coordinate "Help-links" to Swedish http-servers in order to make the response times shorter and to reduce band-width over the Atlantic. The project should include all Mosaic-platforms, including X-Windows (SGI, SUN Solaris, IBM AIX, HP/UX, DEC Ultrix, Linux), MS Windows and Macintosh. I have requested the source-code for MS Windows and Macintosh, and received it in late spring 1994. Also, I've been in contact with NCSA's SDG (Software Development Group) to make them gather all string-resources in one place, otherwise it will take two or three weeks to retranslate each version... In April 1994 I wrote an email to statsministern@sb.gov.se (the Swedish Prime Minister) and copies to Arne.Sundstrom@au.lu.se (Head of Administrative Development, Lund University) and Olle@vhs.se (Olle Thylander at VHS, Verket för Högskole Service) proposing ten million Swedish kronor a year for a Swedish software development group that would serve the Swedish Universities with Swedish software (Mosaic, Internet email and more). I hope that such a group would "inherit" this project in the future. Since then, a software devolopment group (ECSDG, EkonomiCentrum Software Development Group) has been founded and the project is donated to that group. Nevertheless, a national group or "network" should be founded (and funded!) in the near future. During the spring of 1994 a group at Universität Tübingen in Germany has developed a ground-work of Mosaic for X "v2.4.1", which should be much, much nicer to work on than the original version from NCSA. I will investigate the source more thoroughly in the next few weeks. The Future ---------- I'm currently doing this in my spare time and my landlord asks me for money for my appartment, so sometimes I have to put this project aside to make a little money. I hope someone will be willing to raise a little economic fund for this project, but... I've got the source code for Mosaic v2.2 (Swedish release 2) for X-Windows. I also have got a binary, ready to go, compiled on IBM AIX v3.2.5 at School of Economics and Management, Lund University. please send an email if you really can't wait for it! The project will be available by anonymous FTP at: ecsdg.lu.se:/pub/mosaic-swe but I will post an announcement when it's ready. Meanwhile the mailing-lists will serve as a forum for ideas and comments. Local Help Documents -------------------- It would be extremely valuable if we could maintain a "mirror" of NCSA's help-documents for Mosaic locally, here in Sweden. The advantages should be clear; faster response times, reduced bandwidth over the Atlantic, much higher availability and of course a more balanced workload on NCSA's servers. Therefore, I'm seeking a person that would be willing to maintain the latest (the very latest) documents on a Swedish, well-configured and highly available http host. Prepare your- self to scan NCSA's servers at least once a week. Also, it would be nice if the site is rather large in order to get "backup-personnel" in case of vacation or if you simply run into another occupation elsewhere. Please respond if you feel that this person is YOU, or if you know anybody else already doing this! How To ------ Mail to List-Maintainer ----------------------- If you want to send an email to the maintainer of the mailing-lists, submit a mail to: owner-mosaic-swe-win-users@ecsdg.lu.se For MS Windows owner-mosaic-swe-x-users@ecsdg.lu.se For X-Windows and other platforms Mail to subscribe/unsubscribe ----------------------------- If you want to unsubscribe (quit the mailing-list), submit a mail to: mosaic-swe-win-users-request@ecsdg.lu.se For MS Windows mosaic-swe-x-users-request@ecsdg.lu.se For X-Windows and other platforms Please write "UNSUBSCRIBE" as the subject and your name, organisation and email-address as the message body. Mail to the list ---------------- Please do not hesitate to make comments, suggestions or just ventilate your ideas of the project, its form and related topics to these forums: mosaic-swe-win-users@ecsdg.lu.se For MS Windows mosaic-swe-x-users@ecsdg.lu.se For X-Windows, other platforms and general topics I hope we will come up with something good together in the near future! Regards, __________________________________________________________ Johan Svensson Email: johan@ECSDG.lu.se Tel: +46-46-104505 EkonomiCentrum Software Development Group, Lund University URL: ECSDG Home Page ---------------------------------------------------------- Address: JoS-Ware Comp Tech, Box 739, 220 07 LUND, SWEDEN Email: JoS-Ware@kuai.se Fax: +46-46-188445