Ok I have finally got all the packages in binary format, and updated the foomatic packages. ftp://ftp.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/vectorlinux/veclinux-soho-4.0/testing/printer/ These are going to be the final packages if they work for everyone. No point in replacing hpijs, gnu-gs-font, espgs, or the ijs and ipp packages. They are the same ones we have been using. But if you want to try the foomatic packages, and cups I would appreciate any feed back. I have included a install script so they get installed in the right order. Download the packages you need into a empty directory, then download the script (install-pkgs) to the same directory. Then chmod +x install-pkgs, to make the script executable(you have to be root or su). Then cd to that directory and type ./install-pkgs and the script should install the packages. You can edit the install-pkgs script so it only installs what you need by adding a # infront of the package in question. if you have gnu-gs-fonts already then make that line look like this #/sbin/installpkg gnu-gs-fonts-6.0-i386-1.tgz and it won't get installed. A lot people won't need to install the ppds package, which is 13 megbytes so install all but that and see if your printer is supported with out it. Even if it is not you can just grab the individual ppd file and place it in /usr/share/cups/model/foomaitc-ppds. Or you can install the big foomatic file if thats easier and you have the space. And am particularly interested if they work on clean installs. Oh I am going to update the big self installing package, to include all of these packages so If you want to try it should be in the developers on crack by directory by tomorrow. I think it will be a good package to add to the cdrom, but again if you feel like downloading it (22meg) and testing it on clean install that would be great. If you don't test it on clean machine, then I would recommend removing old packages that conflict with the new ones. Oh I also put a uninstall script (remove-cups-20-1) at the download site, again you can add a # to comment out any packages you want to leave in. Paul