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Re: Refracta wiki project

Sun Feb 17, 2013 12:24 pm

The vnc section sucks big time and needs to be reorganized. Typos like the one you found need fixing, too. I'll get to that.

There wasn't always a refractainstaller.conf. I don't recall which version first had it, but you're probably using an older version. The squeeze version of refracta came with 9.0.2-something. Get with the times, dude! The newer versions should all still work on squeeze.

I liked the release notes better without the separate containers. The boxes make the page look more crowded to me. (I'm not talking about the code boxes - those must remain.) And please don't be offended when I add more blank lines to your layout.

I do like it, and I will use what you've done. Thanks. If/when you're finished with them, I'll save the pages and upload them to ibiblio later (or sooner).

Re: Refracta wiki project

Sun Feb 17, 2013 12:49 pm

While we're talking about the appearance of the website, take a look at this -
http://www.ibiblio.org/refracta/Refract ... round.html

That's a page with a background image that I was playing with last year. I like the image, but I don't like the way it looks on the page. If you have any brilliant ideas about that, please speak up.

I think we should only have a few screenshots on the screenshots page. The screenshots for the installation procedure should be part of a howto or installation manual that's separate from the screenshots page. It could be posted in the forum howto section and either posted or linked on the ibiblio site.

Re: Refracta wiki project

Sun Feb 17, 2013 1:12 pm

I for one like it better with a background picture than with pure white. Much better.
Perhaps (!) you could add a border around the "boxes" (to get rid of the "i don't like how it looks on the web-site).
Somehow like:
border: 2px solid #000000
(i think, not sure. With size and color you could play, sure).

"shadow" might be another idea (but i only know #text-shadow:
text-shadow: 0px 0px 8px
rgba(255, 96, 48, 0.9);

Well: i don't know what you don't like ...

Re: Refracta wiki project

Sun Feb 17, 2013 1:28 pm

Speaking of separate boxes, I now have a request. I'd like to see what it would look like if the links on the right side were all in a single box instead of separate boxes. And on the Team page, the team members in a single box. Thanks.

Re: Refracta wiki project

Sun Feb 17, 2013 2:08 pm

http://i50.tinypic.com/2zexitf.png
Image
Mhh... i need to sleep. I skip the rant.

Re: Refracta wiki project

Sun Feb 17, 2013 2:21 pm

fsmithred wrote:The vnc section sucks big time and needs to be reorganized. Typos like the one you found need fixing, too. I'll get to that.

Agreed that more organization in that section is needed.

fsmithred wrote:There wasn't always a refractainstaller.conf. I don't recall which version first had it, but you're probably using an older version. The squeeze version of refracta came with 9.0.2-something. Get with the times, dude! The newer versions should all still work on squeeze.

OK. Still haven't done a snap of squeeze. Not sure how snapshot will handle a separate /home. It's probably somewhere in the notes. Not 'dude' BTW.

fsmithred wrote:I liked the release notes better without the separate containers. The boxes make the page look more crowded to me. (I'm not talking about the code boxes - those must remain.) And please don't be offended when I add more blank lines to your layout.

Please don't add 'blank lines' now that the markup is cleaned up. Margins need to be adjusted on individual elements in the CSS styles.

fsmithred wrote:I do like it, and I will use what you've done. Thanks. If/when you're finished with them, I'll save the pages and upload them to ibiblio later (or sooner).

I'm finished when you're happy with it. I'm concerned that if you muck around much in it (like 'adding lines') the layout will become inconsistent and look nasty. ;)
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Re: Refracta wiki project

Sun Feb 17, 2013 2:28 pm

fsmithred wrote:While we're talking about the appearance of the website, take a look at this -
http://www.ibiblio.org/refracta/Refract ... round.html

That's a page with a background image that I was playing with last year. I like the image, but I don't like the way it looks on the page. If you have any brilliant ideas about that, please speak up.

Geometric images are tough to work with. I have one idea about at least getting it repeating from the center rather than the left. Would be safer to make the page a fixed width.

fsmithred wrote:I think we should only have a few screenshots on the screenshots page. The screenshots for the installation procedure should be part of a howto or installation manual that's separate from the screenshots page. It could be posted in the forum howto section and either posted or linked on the ibiblio site.

There could at least be links to the series of screenies for the installer and snapshot on the screenshots page. And all those should be in the images folder. Links can be in the release notes and also on the wiki. Remember the wiki??
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Re: Refracta wiki project

Sun Feb 17, 2013 2:31 pm

fsmithred wrote:Speaking of separate boxes, I now have a request. I'd like to see what it would look like if the links on the right side were all in a single box instead of separate boxes. And on the Team page, the team members in a single box. Thanks.

I'll do it to compare but think about this. There is very little content on those pages. The individual boxes make it more visually interesting, especially if we decide to use a bg image.

Re: Refracta wiki project

Sun Feb 17, 2013 2:37 pm

nadir wrote:Perhaps (!) you could add a border around the "boxes" (to get rid of the "i don't like how it looks on the web-site).
Somehow like:
border: 2px solid #000000
(i think, not sure. With size and color you could play, sure).

There already ARE borders on all the boxes . . . need glasses? 2px black? So gross and hammer on the head.

nadir wrote:"shadow" might be another idea (but i only know #text-shadow:
text-shadow: 0px 0px 8px
rgba(255, 96, 48, 0.9);

Not into baroque. My preference is for simple 'flat' presentations. A shadow won't be added by my hand and if it is . . . there is always stylish etc. to get rid of it. ;) If a bg image is used, shadow would be overkill IMO.

Re: Refracta wiki project

Sun Feb 17, 2013 3:14 pm

OK, I will refrain from mucking up html. (Been there, done that.) My eye would like a little more white space at the end of each section. I'm ok with the boxes as long as I don't have to mess with them. Flat is good, too. Still undecided on the bg image. Now that you mention it, maybe it is clashing geometry that I don't like about it.

Snapshot will handle a separate /home just fine. You don't have to mess with the excludes file for it to work correctly, but you might need to exclude any large files or directories. Note that there won't be a separate /home in the live iso, but you can re-create that on the next install.

Oh yeah. The wiki. Who is going to administer the wiki page? I don't want another website to deal with, but I'm not opposed to the idea. I'm also OK with just using the Howto section of this forum for all the documentation. And as for getting on wikipedia - I know nothing about that subject.
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