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First ascii snapshots

Sun Feb 28, 2016 11:16 pm

I made a vbox installation of jessie-sysv.3, upgraded to ascii (testing) and made a snapshot with refractasnapshot-9.3.2. That version creates files in /dev in the snapshot. Boot failed and dropped to busybox.

Dropped back to refractasnapshot-9.2.2. That one patches /usr/share/initramfs-tools/init. That snapshot boots.

Looks like I can't pull initramfs-tools from ceres yet, initscripts needs to catch up. (can't copy/paste it right now.)

On a less bright note, it seems that openssh-server depends on libsystemd0.

Re: First ascii snapshots

Mon Feb 29, 2016 12:53 am

On a less bright note, it seems that openssh-server depends on libsystemd0.

openssh* 1:7.1p2-2.0nosystemd1 debs and sources available at http://angband.pl/debian/

Same goes for xserver-xorg-core (and probably others)
Last edited by dzz on Mon Feb 29, 2016 1:06 am, edited 1 time in total.

Re: First ascii snapshots

Mon Feb 29, 2016 12:54 am

dzz . . . did fsr's suggestion to switch the wallpaper fix the problem you were having with the logo?

(Apologies for asking in the wrong thread.)

Re: First ascii snapshots

Mon Feb 29, 2016 1:08 am

dzz . . . did fsr's suggestion to switch the wallpaper fix the problem you were having with the logo?

(Apologies for asking in the wrong thread.)

Yes to both!

Re: First ascii snapshots

Tue Mar 01, 2016 2:27 am

what means "upgrade to asci" ?

regarding ssh depending on libsystemd
this is my main concern regarding anything based o:n debian
(in Germany we say: "getting from rain into baptism/launching").
Without thinking much about it: A tool which automatically removes systemd-dependencies and then rebuild would probably make sense (?),
not by you, but by anyone who wants to stick to debian-based but stay systemd-free.
Else it seems like endless manual work (and rather boring one ... ).

Re: First ascii snapshots

Tue Mar 01, 2016 3:45 am

nadir wrote:what means "upgrade to asci" ?

ascii will be the next release of Devuan after Jessie.

Re: First ascii snapshots

Tue Mar 01, 2016 11:55 am

Ah. Thanks.

Re: First ascii snapshots

Tue Mar 01, 2016 3:29 pm

A tool which automatically removes systemd-dependencies and then rebuild would probably make sense.

Forking Debian (yes, devuan, although originating from debian, is a fork and already off in a different direction) is not a simple matter. You probably won't get far with ascii just yet, without getting involved in development processes and fixing breakages to some extent. I also would like a "magic tool" for moving targets.

The good news: No need to do that for Devuan Jessie, it's now complete enough for general use as a good, stable OS (we now even have refracta8, a fine live image with installer).

Welcome back nadir!

Re: First ascii snapshots

Tue Mar 01, 2016 5:00 pm

It only came to my mind.

As far it's me: I could even live with a distro or OS with the basic tools and no option to install new apps.
At least not the thousands of (partly pointless) apps debian offers.
ssh is something really basic though :-)

Re: First ascii snapshots

Sun Mar 06, 2016 9:28 pm

That first ascii snapshot was with the 3.16 kernel. I upgraded to 4.3 today along with 'aptitude full-upgrade'. Snapshot made with refractasnapshot-9.2.2 using patched init booted.
Snapshot made with refractasnapshot-9.3.2 and unpatched init booted.

I had to add xserver-xorg-legacy to get startx to work for user. Without that, only root can start an xsession.
sysv-rc and sysvinit-utils were held back by aptitude. It looks like the newer version of sysv-rc no longer provides update-rc.d. Ah, it's in initscripts (or will be there in a few hours.)
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