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Refracta installer and snapshot used on other distros

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Re: Refracta installer and snapshot used on other distros

Postby greenjeans » Mon Sep 19, 2016 10:16 pm

Used Refractainstaller last night to do a conventional install on an 8 gig usb stick, ext4 and a small swap partition, worked beautifully, despite only being usb 2, it runs faster in every way and boots quicker than my hard-drive install. I imagine an SSD HD would be faster, but so far the stick install puts a plate-spinner to shame.

If I had usb 3 i'd run like this all the time. Also seems like an easy way to run another "build" partition or more. (I don't use VB to build or at all really, just one of my quirks).
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Re: Refracta installer and snapshot used on other distros

Postby greenjeans » Tue Sep 20, 2016 8:07 pm

Sweet, posting now from what's hopefully the final run of my little mate iso, loaded chromium so I could do so, seems like everything works. Found another small batch of cruft I got rid of, so down to 397.4 mb, actual squash file is 379. Added a .desktop file so a user can easily deal with editing autologin post-install if they change their mind about whatever they set during install. Off to go upload it now. I suppose I should do some documentation too.

Thinking of working on a custom snapshot exclude list specifically for guys trying to do the same thing as I am, and once upon a time I built a custom bleachbit cleaner I called "clean for new iso" that was ruthless at dumping all the extra stuff and truncating files that needed to stay but could be whittled down, gonna try and find that and re-write for use here, i'll post 'em if any of it works out so others can test if they like.
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Re: Refracta installer and snapshot used on other distros

Postby thwak » Wed Sep 21, 2016 2:06 am

despite only being usb 2
if you have 2Gb+ RAM, try using the toram boot cheatcode
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Re: Refracta installer and snapshot used on other distros

Postby greenjeans » Wed Sep 21, 2016 9:40 pm

aack, the Devuan/Debian netinstaller is sooooooooo slow.......it's like somebody set out to make the slowest install known to man (other than windoze). Why is it the Refractainstaller takes like 5 minutes and a Devuan/Debian netinstall takes two hours even on a fast connection?

Installing 64 bit now to start work on that, chop chop chop, squash squash, that's the fun stuff. ;)
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Re: Refracta installer and snapshot used on other distros

Postby fsmithred » Mon Sep 26, 2016 4:00 pm

greenjeans wrote:Why is it the Refractainstaller takes like 5 minutes and a Devuan/Debian netinstall takes two hours even on a fast connection?


Refractainstaller does not require downloading the package and then unpacking the package and installing it. That part is already done, and all that's needed is to copy it to hard drive and add the bootloader. And if you already have a partition (or more) ready, it eliminates the partition manager.
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Re: Refracta installer and snapshot used on other distros

Postby figlfdev » Tue Sep 27, 2016 9:03 am

greenjeans wrote:the Devuan/Debian netinstaller is sooooooooo slow.......


i dont get the appeal of the netinstaller. flexibility i guess. for me at least, if i can download an iso i can either install from media or rsync it all over the place.

* single continuous download, with single resolution, or:
* tons of little downloads, each with their own resolution (or start time.)

once the iso is downloaded, it goes across the lan at local (faster) speeds, not the speed of the mirror or your isp.

of course devuan misconfigured their regular beta iso, so its a large download but it still works as a netinstaller. every version before that was just like installing debian because its the same installer. but yeah, debian installer probably is slow once youve used refracta. :) personally i expect closer to 20 minutes than 2 hours for an lxde desktop with gimp and iceweasel.
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Re: Refracta installer and snapshot used on other distros

Postby greenjeans » Tue Sep 27, 2016 10:57 pm

Posting from the new minimal iso I ran this morning, all seems good, added gksu .desktop files for gparted and synaptic, and now it all works just fine, zippy fast in fact, love a fresh install of a minimalized distro. Got her down to 386.9 mb.

I'm calling it good for now I think, now need to go back and re-roll the 32 bit.

Gonna upload here shortly, please feel free to test, could use another few pairs of eyes. ;)

@fsmithred : just remembered I forgot to add the sysvinit-core package you made, is that gonna hurt anything or did this last update to Refractainstaller deal with that? lol please tell me it's all good and I don't have to do another snapshot run.
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Re: Refracta installer and snapshot used on other distros

Postby fsmithred » Tue Sep 27, 2016 11:05 pm

No, that's separate from refractasnapshot. Without it, you won't get console autologin. You can copy the file from a refracta iso - /lib/live/config/0161-sysvinit-core. I haven't uploaded the package anywhere yet. Guess I should do that. I'll post a link when I do.
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Re: Refracta installer and snapshot used on other distros

Postby greenjeans » Tue Sep 27, 2016 11:29 pm

fsmithred wrote:No, that's separate from refractasnapshot. Without it, you won't get console autologin. You can copy the file from a refracta iso - /lib/live/config/0161-sysvinit-core. I haven't uploaded the package anywhere yet. Guess I should do that. I'll post a link when I do.


Copy that. (....sigh......) Not been a good day, I got stung by a wasp on the butt, little sob crawled right down the back of my pants while I was bent over picking up a gas can. I would laugh but it still hurts.

Okay, re-run coming up. I have the file somewhere already.
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Re: Refracta installer and snapshot used on other distros

Postby fsmithred » Tue Sep 27, 2016 11:49 pm

New folder at the sourceforge site:
https://sourceforge.net/projects/refracta/files/Extras/

You want live-config-refracta-0.0.3.deb. That has the sysvinit-core script, refracta-lang (for easy language choice at isolinux boot menu) and a lightdm autologin fix. All tweaks for live-config.

Other packages there are usbpmount and firemenu (an editable yad menu for starting apps in a firejail sandbox.)
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